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Date:Fri Apr 7 13:45:02 2006 
Subject:pop-forum poplog on fedora core 5, .not 
From:Chris Dollin 
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Aaron Sloman wrote:

> I was looking for something else on google groups and found that
> Chris Dollin had posted a message saying
> 
>> I am upgraded to Fedora Core 5. I have a pop11 failure or few.
> 
> The message had a large attachment, which is probably why it never
> reached the Birmingham news server and therefore did not get to
> the pop-forum gateway (which might not have let it through anyway).

Update from me.

It looks like part of my problem (and specifically the errno problem)
was that I had an older version of poplog around, a /very/ much older
version. I was glad to see that the errno problem had been fixed, 
in what looks like just the same way I'dve fixed it ...

>>     /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so* not found.
>>     Please check out your motif installation.
>>  Could not find Motif (or Lesstif)
>>  Cannot run poplog with Motif even if X libraries installed
> 
> Chris: has the location of the X11 stuff changed in FC5?

Yes. The X libraries are in /usr/lib.

> Are you sure you have motif installed? (libXm.so needed).

I'm sure I don't. (And I install with nomotif - I note that the
script gives, on failure, messages that suggest you might be missing
the motif libraries even if you've specified nomotif as the option.)

>> trying to run /usr/local/poplog/v15.6/pop/pop/poplink_cmnd.nomotif.sh
> 
> To my surprise that seems to have worked. Maybe the X11 stuff was found
> by the linker in a new place?

Because the X libraries are in /usr/lib, it should just find them.
Yippee.

> 
>> checking for newpop11 after poplink_cmnd
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1797584 Mar 30 10:26 newpop11
>> copying newpop11 to basepop11
> 
> So it managed to link newpop11, and made that basepop11.
> 
> Then
>> Try to rebuild newpop, poplink, poplibr, popc, system images
> 
> This seems to have worked OK

What I get on a clean system is a bunch of STACK EMPTY mishaps, 
and then an untidy exit.

On the off-chance, I fixed the varargs issue in c_core.c
and rebuilt the library.

Then I did it again, because INSTALL_BHAMetc trashed the update
when it untarred the file ...

    [Can I put in a plea for an install script that can be run 
     in easy stages?]

... but it didn't make any difference.

>>     ./INSTALL_BHAM_LINUX_POPLOG: line 341: cd: /usr/local/man/man1: No
>> such file or directory
> 
> Has FC5 given up using /usr/local/man for man files? 

No, they're still there. (I'm running FC5 at work as well as at home -
having updated my work machine from a creaking RH9 to FC5 and upped
the resolution on my monitor - room! room! - so if I have u.l.m.
here I assume I have it at home.)

>>  So I have inserted the following in /etc/sysctl.conf
>>
>>     # Prevent problems starting saved images
>>     kernel.randomize_va_space=0
> 
> You reported that that had worked for you also. Did you do this in FC5
> before trying to run or install Poplog?

I believe so. But I will be trying again this weekend, assuming that
I have the time.

> That implies that the startup.psv saved image had been created OK and
> pop11 should work.
> 
> Were the saved images created?
> Chris, what does this show?
> 
>     ls -l $usepop/pop/lib/psv/

Hang on, I'll just try again ...

`total 0`.

I did a

./INSTALL_BHAM_LINUX_POPLOG nomotif original ~/downloads/poplog nolinks > install.log

and this is what appeared on the terminal:

./CHECK_LINUX_FACILITIES: line 37: cd: /usr/X11R6/lib: No such file or directory

;;; MISHAP - ste: STACK EMPTY (missing argument? missing result?)
;;; FILE     :  /home/kers/downloads/poplog/v15.6/pop/lib/lib/mkimage.p
;;;       LINE NUMBER:  1
;;; DOING    :  null nextitem trycompile

;;; MISHAP - ste: STACK EMPTY (missing argument? missing result?)
;;; DOING    :  null nextitem pop_setpop_compiler

;;; MISHAP - ste: STACK EMPTY (missing argument? missing result?)
;;; DOING    :  null nextitem pop_setpop_compiler

;;; MISHAP - ste: STACK EMPTY (missing argument? missing result?)
;;; DOING    :  null nextitem pop_setpop_compiler
ls: /home/kers/downloads/poplog/v15.6/pop/pop/*.psv: No such file or directory
ls: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so*: No such file or directory

I get the same result after 

    sysctl kernel.randomize_va_space=0

The install log isn't very helpful, but I'll attach it anyway.

Any advice on how to procede would be useful.


-- 
Chris "not a Tuvela" Dollin
"To say that the human is thus and so is almost always to lie automatically."
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